Re[2]: [tied] Draw, correction

At 3:21:44 PM on Friday, October 24, 2008, tgpedersen wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
> <BMScott@...> wrote:

>> At 12:46:17 PM on Friday, October 24, 2008, tgpedersen
>> wrote:

>>> You're right, so I can't use that to time *-a:- > *-o:-
>>> which must then have taken place independently and
>>> earlier; it's common Germanic AFAIK?

>> Yes, though Ringe at least thinks that it was very late.
>> (He has *o > *a and *o: > *a:, followed later by rounding
>> of *a: to *o, the last change being very late, possibly even
>> spreading by contact as PGmc. was breaking up.)

> I thought the result of that, *a: > *o, was only in the
> final syllable?

You must have misunderstood. In Ringe's view the familiar
unconditional a: > o: was actually a two-stage process.
The first change, simultaneous with the merger of PIE *o and
*a as PGmc. *a, was a merger of PIE *o: and *a: as *a:.
Then at a later date this Pre-Gmc. *a: was rounded to PGmc.
*o:. Thus, his view of the development of 'sweet' is PIE
*swá:dus > *swa:tuz > PGmc. *swo:tuz. Another example, this
one involving a laryngeal: PIE *dHóh1mos 'thing put' >
*dHó:mos > *da:maz > PGmc. *do:maz 'judgement'.

Brian