Re: Draw, correction

From: tgpedersen
Message: 61062
Date: 2008-10-24

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:
>
> At 2:21:41 AM on Friday, October 24, 2008, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> >> Recall that the Germanic class VI strong verbs have PIE
> >> (supposedly) -a-/-o:-/-o:-/-a- where more predictable
> >> Germanic verbs (Class I - III) have PIE
> >> -e-/-o-/zero/zero. The Germanic verb 'dragan' is a class
> >> VI verb. As claimed above, we have reason to suspect it
> >> is a Venetic verb. We also have reason to suspect that
> >> Venetic (or Old Europen) was a non-ablauting a-language,
> >> so that a verb in place of the PIE -e-/-o-/zero/zero
> >> pattern would have -a-/-a-/-a-/-a-. If we assume it had
> >> Brugmann lengthening in the 3sg perf., and generalized
> >> that to all persons and [correction] numbers
> >> [/correction], it would have -a-/-a:-/-a:-/-a-. And if
> >> that was loaned into Germanic before that had a: > o:
> >> (which must have happened when e: > a:, cf Swe:w- >
> >> Swa:w-), then it would have the pattern
> >> -a-/-o:-/-o:-/-a-, which is exactly Germanic class VI.
>
> But *e:-lowering isn't Gmc.: it's NWGmc. (cf. Goth.
> <le:tan>, but ON <la:ta>, OHG <la:zzan>, OE <læ:tan>). And
> Gothic has Class VI strong verbs.

You're right, so I can't use that to time *-a:- > *-o:- which must
then have taken place independently and earlier; it's common Germanic
AFAIK?


Torsten