Re: Identity of the 'language of geminates'

At 2:18:05 PM on Thursday, October 16, 2008, tgpedersen
wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "indravayu" <sonno3@...>
> wrote:

>>> Welsh perth is ultimately, it seems, from Lat.
>>> pert(ic)a, the Roman surveying instrument par
>>> excellence, recall the pertica militaris 'sectioned land
>>> allotments as payment deeded (Celtic and Germanic)
>>> mercenaries'.

>> Perth (aalong with Gaulish Perta) is generally believed
>> to be a derivative of Common Celtic *kWerkWo- "oak" (from
>> PIE *perkWo-)

> That leaves Jysk perte "beat", pirke:firke "squeeze out",
> Da. pirke, dial. perke "to prod" (with un-Germanic p-)
> unexplained.

There's no obvious reason to connect them with <perth>
'wood, copse' in the first place.

> Venetic might have had *kW- > *p-, cf NWB pier, pirek, OI
> cruim, Welsh pryf "worm" < PIE *kW-r.-mi- and Gmn.
> pflegen, Pflicht, Engl. play, PI cluiche "game", cless
> "weapon trick", clecht "habit", clechtaid "does
> habitually".
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/48419

Matasovic' derives OIr <cles> 'feat' (masc. o- and u-stem)
from PCelt *klisso-, *klissu- < PIE *klisd-to-, citing Skt.
<krí:d.ati> 'play, dance' as a cognate; others have related
the latter to ON <hrista> 'to shake' and reconstructed
*krisd-, though Lubotsky is skeptical of the connection.

Brian