From: george knysh
Message: 60893
Date: 2008-10-14
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
From: tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>
Subject: [tied] Re: Belgs
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 4:34 PM
--- In cybalist@... s.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
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> --- On Mon, 10/13/08, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@ ...> wrote:
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> Okulicz' scenario is so complicated I still struggle to comprehend it.
> Joz^ef S^avli/Matej Bor don't have any.
> Myself, I won't make up my mind before I get my head around the many
> details in Okulicz' scenario.
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> Traditionally Venetic has been associated with Urnfield cultures.
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> Torsten
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> GK: From Shchukin (1997) "The birth of the Slavs", section 4,
> I am therefore inclined to the thought that such a transference
> more likely occurred somewhat later, when the amber route was
> re-established by the special diplomatic efforts of Nero (Kolendo
> 1981, Shchukin 1994, Shchukin,in print).
> (par. 58) This may be supported by some archaeological arguments.
> From the mid 1rst c. AD begins the "golden age" of the Baltic,
> accompanied by an obvious cultural upswing (Okulicz 1973: 379)."
> He goes on to give many details. Incl. evidence as to population
> migrations from Roman territory into Lithuania...
Which Roman territories?
Torsten
****GK: Wherever the "masters" who settled near the Baltic and produced "local variants" of Roman-type wares and jewellery (part ofthis "upswing") came from (via Carnuntum). Shchukin claims that most of these wares were not actually imports...****