Re: Varuna - a follow up

From: kishore patnaik
Message: 60810
Date: 2008-10-11

I think you have failed to see the references. there is nothing original. One or two references, I could not get in time, so I have written that from memory. Again, there is nothing original there.

 
Kishore patnaik

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:

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From: kishore patnaik

Dear all,

> Varuna  was one of the oldest of the Vedic deities, Varuna may have been
> part of the first triad of gods known in the Vedic period – along with
> Mitra and Aryaman [1}A  little later, but still within early
> Vedic period, they were replaced by Agni, Indra and Surya [1]
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Nothing of this is supported by RgVeda.
Arnaud
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> Varuna was both an asura and a deva., leading to the notion that Varuna,
> ancient lord of Justice (rta) and truth (satya) had a violent streak.
> There were accusations in the later myths that this violence was > why
> Indra took away Varuna's power.  [1] However, Varuna is kind hearted also.
> [8]
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Absurd.
Arnaud
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In the early Vedas, Varuna was the king of the earth and the sky, and the
creator. He was also associated with Mitra , the ruler of night – though in
later Vedic hymns, we find him as the chief of the Adityas, thus an asura,
and contrasted to Mitra, a deva and the ruler of the day. [1]
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No,
Arnaud
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By the time of Puranas,  [clipped] he originally held is well attested.
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Irrelevant.
Because thousands of years too late.
Arnaud
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The word "Varuna"  is traced to Var or to cover (as by sky or by darkness)
[4]
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No.
Arnaud
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> While Dumezil tries to find a parallel for Varuna in European mythology,
> such as in Scandinavia, [6] Dyaus-Zeus-Jupiter , Father sky, is about the
> only certain equation of Proto- Aryan mythology. But in
> spite of this, he (Dyaus) was of no special moment in Vedic religion and
> became important to Greek and Roman only as he became much more than an
> ancestor. [7]
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There is no "tries" and "scandinavia".
Every place we have uncontaminated IE religions (outside Greece and
Anatolia) we find it.
Arnaud
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Hope to hear from you all,
Kishore patnaik
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No problem
Arnaud
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