Re: Marduk = Marut = Marutash ?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

>
> On 2008-10-09 18:03, stlatos wrote:
>
> > Both *eurus and *urus 'broad, wide' existed. The wide sky was called
> > *euru-nos with metathesis in Indic.
> > For *euru-nos, Greek changed u > ou in some cases
>
> Strange. It didn't do so in <eurús>.

That begins with eu-, not u- as in the examples I gave. Both
initials existed in that word.

> Besides, Gk. has dialectal forms
> wit initial <ora-> and <o:ra->, pointing to older *(w)orsano- or
> *(w)orwano-.

*ourano- > *orwano-, no more odd than Waruna- and Urwana-.

>
> > (compare Skt urvara:-, G aroura 'field' and *wedn/udn()- '(wet?)
> > soil' > Arm getin, G edaphos, oudas) and dissimilated u-u > u-a by r
> > (similar to L *ururo- > *aruro- > *aruo- > arvum and so on).
>
> Yep. You achieve great things with the liberal use of metatheses and
> dissimilations ;).

What about Waruna- and Urwana-; any met. there?

<aroura> 'arable land' is generally regarded as a

> Greek derivative of *h2arh3-wr./*h2r.h3-wen-, and <arvus> surely comes
> from the same root. On the other hand, Skt. urvara: is difficult to
> separate from <urvi:> 'earth, soil' (= 'the wide one') and so

ultimately

> from urú- 'wide'.

They're both connected with wide. What are the chances two words
that apply to wide things would show ou-a / a-ou in G and va-u / u-va
in Indic?

>
> > The existence of both Varun.a = Ouranos and urvara: = aroura makes
> > the connection almost beyond doubt, especially since the existence of
> > Urwana- implies metathesis in at least one word.
>
> If I were to connect the two theonyms, I'd opt for something like
> *wor(h)-wn.n-o- ~ *worh-un-o-.
>
> Piotr
>