Res: [tied] Re: Salt, s-/h-

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 60678
Date: 2008-10-08

Old Umbrian *Etro-rous-ko:s 'Otherlanders' .

Is -rous- cognate of Latin ru:s, ru:ris "open space, outdoor, field"

----- Mensagem original ----
De: dgkilday57 <dgkilday57@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 8 de Outubro de 2008 12:53:21
Assunto: [tied] Re: Salt, s-/h-

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "keltikos" <keltikos@.. .> wrote:
>
> ALLOBROGES perhaps doesn't mean "the seconds in the territory",
but
> "DWELLERS IN THE SALT REGION". "mroga" or "broga" is indeed
> "inhabitable earth" and...

I thought <Allobroges> was understood as 'Otherlanders' , first
applied to them by a different Gaulish tribe living across a major
river from them, and adopted by the Romans to refer to them, but not
a self-name at all.

A parallel is <Etru:sci:> (length shown by <Etru:ria>) which has
nothing to do with <Tursa:noi>, <Turskom>, <Tusci:> (shortness shown
by <Toscana>). The only acceptable explanation I have seen is by G.
Alessio, who derives the name by haplology from Old Umbrian *Etro-
rous-ko:s 'Otherlanders' . Since the Umbrians of Iguvium used <nomem
Turskom> to refer to the Etruscan people, presumably *Etrousko:s
originated with the Umbrians of Tuder (itself meaning 'boundary' in
U.) directly across the Tiber from the Etruscans.

Douglas G. Kilday



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