Re: Negau

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

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> Kuhn's list of words with root /a/ in both Germanic and Latin (which I
> suspect of bein loans from Venetoc) includes
> ratio: 'computation', Goth. raþjo: 'number, account'
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/30032
> In light of the discussion I had with Andrew
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/60436
> and the idea that the Sino-Tibetan roots (Benedict)
> #352 *blen,-/*plen,- "straight; straighten"
> #138 *plen, "flat surface"
> #142 *blin,-/*plin,- "full"

Do you mind providing a list of modern Sino-Tibetan words that
correspond to those above? I am especially fascinated by the close
resemblance of *blin,-/*plin to IE words meaning "full", and also by
the resemblance of the others to IE words meaning "flat" etc. If
you've already posted them, maybe you could direct me to the message?

> are the source of PIE (Watkins)
> Watkins on PIE:
> *pel&-(1) "flat; to spread",
> *plat- "to spread" (extended root of *pel&-(1))
> *pel(&)-(2) "to fill"
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/45555
> one gets the suspicion that Venetic/Rhaetic *plan,W- is related (as
> 'measuring instrument') to the above roots, and that Lat. ratio:,
> Goth. raþjo: and Venetic/Rhaetic *rat- "wheel" (Pokorny ret(h)
> "laufen, rollen"; roto- "Rad") are too.
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/60443
> In which case the wheel started as a ritual measuring and delimiting
> instrument, cf. Pokorny 2. reu-, rew&-: ru(:)- "aufreißen, graben,
> aufwühlen; ausreißen; raffen"; zum Teil, wie es scheint, noch volleres
> ereu- (s. unten); Partiz. Perf. Pass. ru:-tó-. Old a-/u- alternation,
> cf apa/upe ?
>

I don't really see how a "ritual measuring and delimiting instrument"
could be related to "flat; to spread; to fill"; perhaps you could
explain this correspondence. Same goes for *ratio:/raþjo: "reckoning,
account" and Venetic/Rhaetic *rat- "wheel": how are these meanings
connected to "flat; to spread; to fill"? They seem completely
unrelated to me.

Andrew

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