Re: Asian migration to Scandinavia

From: tgpedersen
Message: 59913
Date: 2008-09-01

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, James Dow Allen <jamesdowallen@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Having zero expertise on any linguistic question,
> I've been lurking harmlessly on this list; but
> recently something caught my eye:
>
> koenraad_elst wrote:
> > Wow, [Snorri]'s pretty sophisticated.
> > ... Of course, the immigration of Germanic
> > from the east was already pretty far removed in time from Snorri,
> > a few thousand years ...
>
> Snorri focused on myths of Odin, not Tuisto.
> He may have been able to "remember"
> a journey from Asia because it had happened
> only hundreds, not thousands, of years earlier.

I think he reported a native tradition.


> There is archaeological evidence in Scandinavia,
> beginning in 5th century AD, of Scythian/Sarmatian
> artifacts and burial practices, and the R1a
> Y-chromosome haplogroup present in Scandinavia
> could be explained by immigration of originally
> Iranian- or Hunnic-speaking warriors.

I think you mean the I1 group?
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/59820
etc


> The 6th-century historian Procopius explicitly
> writes of a 5th-century defeat of Heruli-Goths
> in Illyria by Romans, after which some Goths,
> led by their royalty and presumably accompanied
> by Sarmatians or Huns, journeyed back to Thule.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/5404

> Snorri's stories refer to Huns, and there is
> even a curious parallel involving the display
> of a severed head, between a myth of Odin
> and the factual slaying of Gainas by Uldin the Hun.

Snorri doesn't mentions neither Huns nor Heruli in neither the Prologue
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre03.htm
nor the Ynglingasaga
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Heimskringla/Ynglinga_Saga


Torsten