Re: Vandals

> > > > Gambrivii - likely related to Old High German

gambar "vigorous".

> > >
> > > And the Germanic and IE cognates are?
> >
> > Ummm...didn't I just give you one (OHD gambar)?
>
> Yes, and I asked for the rest.

Read the article

> > See the following article for more info, including etymological
> > speculation:
> > http://books.google.com/books?

id=mjnpsC6Lq4QC&pg=PA407&lpg=PA407&dq=gambar,+gambrivii&source=web&ots
=XKEG8QCNln&sig=T1_UBzubG5Ww3AOq1R0WX5KeJvI&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&
resnum=4&ct=result

>
> You should use tinyurl.

http://tinyurl.com/6z5v8a

> There is no way around the conclusion that Gambrivii and Sugambri

are

> related. If those names are Germanic, so is su-, which makes it a
> once-only in Germanic. Not tenable.

Well, I will take the opinion of numerous professional lingusits over
yours any day.

In addition to Sugambri, Pokorny (IEW p. 342) lists under his entry
for su- "good-" Old Icelandic sû-svǫrt "'Schwarzamsel' (`die ganz
Schwarze')".

> > It was not uncommon for -v- and -b- to be confused in Latin texts.
>
> This is too early for that.

Wrong. The texts that we are working from are medieval (and in some
cases, early modern) copies of the the original - very often copies
of copies of copies! We don't have any MSS written by the hand of
Tacitus, for example. So, my point stands.

> > > Supposedly connected to PIE *wendh-. The -a-, like that of
> > > Vandili, is unexplained.
> >
> > According to whom?
>
> According to me. But it's a general problem in traditional Germanic
> etymology; people assume various ablaut grades without any external
> reason.

OK, so not according to anyone who knows what they are talking about.

- Chris Gwinn