Re: Sin once more

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

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> --- On Thu, 7/31/08, indravayu <sonno3@...> wrote:
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> My entire argument is that you can't use a MEDIEVAL pseudo-history
> (Lebor Gabala Erenn), as "proof" of some sort of irish folk memory
> of a STONE AGE migration from Spain to Ireland, because the
> relevant section of the LGE IS NOT ACTUALLY DRAWN FROM GENUINE
> IRISH TRADITION!! What the f**k are you not understanding here??
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> - CG
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> ****GK: He's worried that admitting your point

Which point? In spite of the fact that he has sought to make it more
understandable for me by using capital letters and many exclamation
marks, I can't see what it is.

> might somehow affect his Odinist fantasies,

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/55783
George, as I have pointed out a couple of times, also to you, I am not
an Odinist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odinism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odinist_Fellowship
As I said before, what in my appearance here on cybalist has led you
to believe I would kowtow to some upstart warlord from the Ukraine?

> based on acceptance of Snorri's fairy tales as genuine history.
> The latter ARE of course partly based on genuine "Old Nordic" folk
> memories (not the fictitious Roman connections, but the
> geographical ones, which reflect O.N. voyages up and down the Volga
> and Dnipro some few centuries prior to Snorri /the rest, e.g.
> "Troy" et sim. being drawn and adapted from classical sources/.

I know that is your belief, but that doesn't make it of course.

> We have some Slavic kooks who also believe, against all established
> scientific evidence, that Slavs originate from the Lower Danube
> (ultimately from the Tower of Babel-- the "Lower Danube" is
> allegedly folk memory left over after the learned borrowings from
> Bible etc. have been disposed of) simply on the strength of the
> Tale of Bygone Years. There IS a genuine folk memory here, but it
> is that of the Slavic presence on the Roman Danube frontiers in the
> 6th and 7th centuries.

I won't object if that belief makes you happy.

> If Pedersen would only understand that mediaeval texts need to be
> carefully analysed for content rather than swallowed wholesale, he
> would not make his childish mistakes re Irish sources.

That is exactly what Pedersen proposes, but Brian the fanatic wants
medieval texts to be discarded wholesale. What can you do with that
kind of people?

> But then he would no longer be the Torsten Pedersen we all love and
> cherish would he? (:=)))*****

Trying the overbearing uncle angle now?


I suspect you have peeked in the folder of maps of Oppenheimer's gene
variants, and found the I (Ivan) and I1c (Ingert) maps, with their
distribution in Croatia, North of the Black Sea, and North
Germany/Netherlands/England/Scandinavia and expected me to ask
annoying questions why this was so, so you initiated a counter attack,
before I could ask the question, which I am doing now: What caused
this odd distribution?


Torsten