Re: Res: Re[2]: Res: [tied] Latin il+C, ir+C, etymology

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:

> Could be silva an dissimilated derivative of *sulva < *(k)su(:)lewa.
>
> Or xylos < *k-su:los < *g^hs-su:los "off the forest"?

The PIE forms were:

* ksweLos (mid-high) >
* ksweLos / kswaLos / ksuLos 'branch'

* ksweLLos / kswaLLos / ksuLLos 'little branch' >
* ksweuLos / kswauLos / ksuuLos 'post, stake, etc.'

* +y 'at the post, in the woods' to specify location


Almost all these lead to one or more attested forms in IE languages
(often with dissim. of w-u), so all previous explanations are either
complicated by exceptions, many different PIE words, or likely
cognates are ignored.

In Latin * ksom > com-, so the dis. was metathesized *kswelwo- with
ksw > sw then w-w > 0-w (and opt. elw > ilw, or whatever).

> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: Brian M. Scott <BMScott@...>
> Para: Rick McCallister <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Enviadas: Domingo, 27 de Julho de 2008 15:42:24
> Assunto: Re[2]: Res: [tied] Latin il+C, ir+C, etymology
>
>
> At 2:16:33 PM on Sunday, July 27, 2008, Rick McCallister
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > and does Greek hulos "wood, matter" somehow fit into this?
>
> It's <hú:le:>, and according to Watkins it's of unknown
> origin.
>
> Brian

G hu:le: was likely borrowed from another IE language since xulon
showed retained ks- and uu > u+tone in G (uu > u: in some other IE,
like Slavic, probably Thracian).