From: stlatos
Message: 59557
Date: 2008-07-13
>Prdakuh
> Hello
> Leo-pard =lion+male panthère
> Gué-pard = cheetah = cat panthère
> From Latin Pardus = Tiger From Grec Pardalis From Iranian roots (?)
> I can't find more IEÂ roots Pard- = feline/panther except Sanskrit
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <mcv@...> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:53:32 -0200, João Simões Lopes Filho
> <jodan99@...> wrote:
>
> >Sanskrit PRDAKU- Russian PARS Greek PARDOS, PARDALIS, PORDALIS
> >
> >PIE word?
> >Russian < Scythian?
>
> Russian <bars>, according to Gamqrelidze & Ivanov, is borrowed from
> Turkic <ba:rs>, in turn from Persian <pa:rs>.
>
> G & I (not unexpectedly) claim that the word is PIE, based on Hitt.
> <parsana>, the Persian word, as well as the Grk. and Skt. forms you
> mention above (plus Sogdian <pwrD'nk>). I don't recall how they want
> to explain the *pard- ~ *pars- alternation. Not very likely.
>
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, João Simões Lopes Filho <jodan99@...>
wrote:
>
> But I think "zd" after consonants like n or r gives "d" *nzd > *nd
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:
>
> Latin ebur and Sanskrit ibha seems to be related, but I don't
believe an IE origin. And I don't agree with "migration through
camel-rich Central Asia" to explain Gothic ulbandus "camel". ulbandus
was a corrupted form of Latin elephant-. Probably due the fact that
camels and elephants are quoted on Bible.
>
> About Greek pardos and Skt prdaku seems more likely a IE source,
but the original meaning would be ambiguous, we have many felids on
Asia that would be the original *prdo-: leopards, tigers, lynxes, snow
leopards, or even cheetahs.
> Hittite parsana seems more unexpected. We should expect a *pardana
or *partana, shouldnt we? Or parsana < *prdyana-? or *partsana-? Or
*przdo- ?
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen <stlatos@...> wrote:
> Khowar has many diagnostic changes but the r, > ru
> in this word is probably the best indication it is
> native. Other words with C, > uC/Cu are:
>
> *pr,zdn,kú+s 'panther, leopard?'
> *pr,zdn,kús > *purdúnkuz -w+ > purdúm
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "ravichaudhary2000" <ravi9@...> wrote:
>
>
> This is a text of a lecture by Dr. Sims of SOAS, following discovery
> of an inscription of Kaniska in 1993.
> Bactrian Documents from Ancient Afghanistan
> Professor Nicholas Sims-Williams of the School of Oriental and
> African Studies (SOAS), University of London, who is the leading
> expert of the Sogdian and Bactrian languages, gave a lecture on the
> discovery and decipherment of Bactrian documents, written in the
> little-known Iranian language of Ancient Afghanistan in modified
> Greek script, at the Ancient Orient Museum in Ikebukuro, Tokyo, on
> September 23.
> New Findings in Ancient Afghanistan
> --- the Bactrian documents discovered from the Northern Hindu-Kush
> Prof. Nicholas Sims-Williams (University of London)
> Bactrian, the ancient language of Bactria in northern Afghanistan,
To
> judge by personal names such as Ohrmuzd and Khwasraw, the document
> belonged to the Sasanian period. Another striking name was Purlang-
> zin, evidently meaning "the man with the panther's skin" --- a clear
> reference to the zin-e palang of Rustam, one of the heroes of the
> Persian epic.
Also: Pashto prang, Kurdish pling, Kashmiri trunzu, *pur.d.anku-
borrowed> Skt pun.d.ari:ka-m 'tiger, lotus, etc.'