Ethno-Nationalism, or Racism, or Whatever??? ( was Re: a discussion

From: david_russell_watson
Message: 58774
Date: 2008-05-23

What a long, babbling, and largely unintelligible rant you
serve us today. Especially strange is your obsession with
the terms "bad guy" and "good guy", which I don't remember
having called anybody myself in the course of this thread.

I'm going to ignore most of it, therefore, but I was able
to figure out three items, two of which were defamatory,
so I'm responding to those, for my face's sake alone, not
for your education, which has proven impossible.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:

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> Of course: because your ideology (as I alreday said) is a
> FAR-LEFT one

I'm sick of reading this. I am a libertarian, not a leftist,
which I've mentioned more than once now. Sources describing
libertarianism and discussion of it are all over the internet
so you have no excuse not to know what it is. I don't think
you can find a single suggestion in all of recorded political
discourse that libertarianism belongs to the left.

In fact, members of this list who were on IndianCivilization
at the same time as me, where I discussed my political ideas
at great length, can testify that I wrote to that list about
being opposed to welfare, public education, and state-funded
healthcare. Now if you think the left, to say nothing of the
far left, is ever going to embrace me with such ideas, then
you don't have the vaguest idea what 'right' and 'left' mean.

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> P.S.: Same thing regarding the theory of "India as Origin of
> Indo-Europeans" (that personally I do not follow but also I
> didn't Hate somebody that simple try to propose this) :

Who hates anybody for simply proposing O.I.T? Certainly not
myself. I've publicly protested more than once when a person
was labelled a nationalist when for no other reason than his
position on A.I.T. and O.I.T. In fact I even asked once on
the IndianCivilization list if it was possible that at least
Proto-Indo-Iranian originated in India if Proto-Indo-European
could not. For another example of my actual attitude in this
regard please see also my comments to Kishore Patnaik at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/IndiaArchaeology/message/6740 .

Why are you trying to portray me out to be such a "BAD GUY",
Marius?

> you can simple write the arguments against if you have them ...
> In place of accusing some Indian Guys as being Hindu-Nationalists
> etc...

On every occasion that I've called anyone a Hindu nationalist
myself I had more than enough evidence to do so, quite apart
from their opinion of A.I.T. or O.I.T. In fact most of them
were quite open about it themselves. Mayuresh Kelkar, for
one, I have known online now for years, including my time on
the IndianCivilization list with him where he and his cronies
had much more to say about their politics than you have ever
witnessed here on cybalist, Marius.

> Finally as I know it wasn't India that has conquered England
> ...at least you should remember this....from time to time

I'm no more English than I am a leftist. Maybe you should
remember that... from time to time.

> Also I don't remember what country was conquered by India in
> the past, but I can easy remember some countries conquered by
> England, Holland, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany, US, Russia,
> Japan etc..

Ah, so there's a hereditary guilt passed down to all people
of the West from their conquest-driven ancestors, which can
only be expiated by acquiescing to any and all historical
claims of the descendants of those our ancestors conquered,
whether we find those claims to make any sense or not?

I've heard that suggestion many times before. In fact it's
very popular in leftist Academic circles.

Is that where you picked it up, Marius? ;^)

David