Re: PIE initial *a

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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: PIE initial *a


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
>
> > Patrick:
> >
> > I am citing Pokorny's reconstructions. Take it up with his spirit.
> > I have explained, over and over, that pre-PIE had four pure vowels:
> >
> > *e:, *a:, *o:, *A
> >
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> You are the only one who could ever believe this makes four pure vowels.
> Actually, I can see only three : e o a with short/length contrast.
>
> You cannot fuse short (Pok) *e and short (Pok) *o under one grapheme.
> You need two vowels.
>
> Arnaud
> =============

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Patrick:

IEists routinely write it *e/*o.

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>
> > PIE *a, as I also have explained at least a dozen times, results from a
> > shortening of *a: due to the Law of Phonological Entropy; and that
> > pre-PIE
> > unlengthened *a was _not_ preserved.
>
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> your own mother tongue refutes your Law of Entropy.
>
> Th stands for both tdh voiced and tth unvoiced.
> There is no minimal pair for this contrast between tdh and tth
> but tdh has not disappeared.
>
> The idea that a long a: could become short
> while there still are long vowels in the system does not make sense.
>
> Arnaud
> =========

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Patrick:

I do not have a "mother tongue".

I have a Proto-Language.

*TH stands _only_ for [tH]; the other notations above I have never seen nor
used.

*TH contrasts with *T?.

http://geocities.com/proto-language/ProtoLanguage-Monosyllables.htm

has examples of minimal contrast for _every_ *C and every *V.


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> > You will never subscribe to my Theory but at least, try to understand
> > it,
> > will you?
>
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> It would be easier if you describe your theory clearly.
>
> Arnaud
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