Re: An Italic Europe?

At 4:11:00 PM on Monday, May 12, 2008, tgpedersen wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57"
> <dgkilday57@...> wrote:

>> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen"
>> <tgpedersen@> wrote:

[...]

>>> How about Wend- names in Britain?

>> Does Hans Kuhn mention any?

> No, the Kuhn article I referred to mentions Wend- names
> only in Northwestern Germany. In general Kuhn doesn't seek
> to involve British toponyms, staying with appellatives and
> personal names (presumably on the assumption that those
> would have come along with the Saxon invasion).

>> If there are none, the presumption is that there were no
>> enclaves of peoples still calling themselves Veneti in
>> Britain, all of them having been assimilated by Celts.

> How about
> Wendover http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendover

From Prim. Welsh *wïnn + duBr 'bright water(s)'.

> Wentbridge

'Bridge across the river Went'; according to Watts, the
river-name is from PrWelsh *winet or *wine:d, from Brit.
*ueneto- or *uene:tio, akin to Welsh <gw^en> 'smile, mirth,
favor', ON <yndi> 'charm, delight, joy', OE <wuno:dsam>
'pleasant', etc., all from PIE *wen- 'desire, strive for'.
The idea would appear to be 'pleasant (stream)' or the like.

[...]

> Do the various places in Winter- have a good etymology?

Yes. In names like <Winterbourne> and <Wintersett> the
first element refers to the season ('stream that runs in
winter', 'fold used in winter'); in names like <Winterton>
and <Winteringham> it goes back to a masculine name <Wintra>
or *<Winter>. These two types cover just about everything.

Brian