From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 58399
Date: 2008-05-08
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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:22 AM
Subject: [tied] 'Laryngeal' Theory to be replaced by Vocalic Theory?
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> >> Patrick:
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> >> Name one single PIE root, if you can, that is *VC.
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> >> Affixes are fused usually monosyllabic roots; notable exception -*Hei,
> >> 'dative', from *He(:)i-, 'go to'.
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> > You are confusing roots and affixes
> > but never mind.
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Patrick:
You are the one confused.
From where do you think affixes come? From the fertile field of someone's
imagination?
Affixes begin life as words, usually in the simplest form of the root.
In the case of suffixes, they begin as the second element of a compound,
which, over time, fuses with the first element.
Though some sources of inflectional affixes are more difficult to
conclusively recognize, most are quite transparent.
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> > PIE *i "anaphoric pronoun"
> > seems very close to #V# This is a minimal root of PIE.
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Patrick:
The pronoun is *yo: *CV; *i is not a true vowel in PIE since it is _always_
the result of avocalic [j].
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> > This *i is affixed to pronouns in Greek and LAtin in plural
> > and it counts for nil in the position of stress in these languages.
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> > PIE Dative-locative is -(e)i
> > there is no H.
> > As M. Carrasquer-Vidal recently explained it to you.
> > As usual, you don't listen to what you are said.
> > I'm not sure what the verb "to go" was
> > but semantically it obviously cannot have any relationship with a
> > locative.
> >
> > Arnaud
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Patrick:
As usual, you have nt done your homework.
The dative is -*He(i).
The locative is -*y(e) or *-Ha.
Miguel explained nothing. He sidestepped the issue.
The fact is the example he cited was wrong and he refuses to admit it.
He also refused recently to go into it.
Your memory fails you.
We were not talking about locative but about an instrumental.
Can you never get it right?
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