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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
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> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh
> > <gknysh@> wrote:
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> > > --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> > > > BTW
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemetes
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niemcza
> > > >
> > > > That would make sense if the Nemetes had come all the way from
> > > > Przeworsk-land with Ariovistus. The question is then: how
> > > > close would the Slavs have to have been at the time A. left
> > > > with them for that to be their designation for Germanic?
> > > >
> > >
> > > GK: I don't think the Nemetes have anything to do
> > > with the "Nemtsi/Nimtsi" of the later Slavs.
> >
> > I do. 1 - 1.
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> ****GK: Explain the etymology of "Nimptsch" and how
> this would relate to Nemetes, Niemtsi/Nemtsi.
As I wrote, *nemét-skV >
*némtskV- (both Old Polish and Germanic have initial stress) >
*nimtsk- (PPGermanic *-eNT- > *-iNT-, for N nasal and T stop) >
German Nimptsch.
The -i- shows in my opinion that the name (with -e-) was known to
PPGermanic speakers, ie Jastorf-derived Przeworskers; cf Wind- vs.
Wend- names.
> When was Nimptsch founded? ****
>
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niemcza
" Ancient times
First finds of settlement of the Lusatian culture comes from the
Bronze Age. Approx. 1000 BCE the first fortress was constructed on the
Stadtberg [city hill] above the S´le,za
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Al%C4%99za
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lohe_%28Fluss%29
which was destroyed around 500 BCE, In the 4th century BCE arose on
the hill a fortified settlement as Gau [district] city of the Silingi,
which is the only such known in the east German area. Both from
excavations from 1935-1936 and 1960-1965 it was confirmed, that
relatives of the Silingi had not joined the migrations
(Völkerwanderungen) but had stayed in a settlement area between the
Mount S´le,z.a
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_%C5%9Al%C4%99%C5%BCa
and the S´le,za river
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Al%C4%99za
[BTW, the papal Selenza sounds real Krahe Old European / Venetic].
At the time of the Slavic settling in the 6th century the name of the
settlement arose from the word Ne^mci (Mutes, Strangers) for the
Germani living here [you wish]. Around 700 this culture mixed with the
Slavic one, as finds of a Slavic fortress confirm. Nemzi became the
main city of the Gau Slensane.
"
I don't think I could wish for a better match for my scenario.
> >
> http://www.springerlink.com/content/c3ht013txp686v71/
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>
> P.S. I shall no longer bother with truncations...****
I wonder what that means?
Torsten