Re: beyond langauges

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 58282
Date: 2008-05-02

--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Wordingham"
> <richard@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 12:51 AM
> Subject: [tied] Re: beyond langauges
>
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud"
> <fournet.arnaud@...>
> wrote:
>
> [> Patrick Ryan wrote: - RW.]
> >>> That has already been done by Bomhard.
>
> >> I don't think &h can be a phoneme of PIE
> >> and I don't think tl > k makes sense.
>
> > So Trubetzkoy's notion that NE Caucasian *tL could
> become /k/, /c/ or
> > /q/ is mistaken? For clusters, tl > kl > k makes
> excellent sense.
> > Richard.
>
> I have no example in mind of tl becoming k.
>
> For a sheer phonetic point of view,
> tl is dental plus lateral distribution,
> it's very far away from k velar.
> Actually pl > kl makes more sense.
> Both p and k are dark.
>
> Arnaud
>
But /tl/ > /kl/ happened in your own language vetus >
vieux



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