From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 58223
Date: 2008-04-30
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [tied] Re: beyond langauges
>
> --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
>
> . . .
> > Patrick:
> >
> > Jesus weeps! Brian, cut the guy some slack.
> >
> > He is addressing the Indian Rotary Club.
> >
> That's no excuse. Do you suddenly become an idiot when
> you address the Little Rock Knitting and Anarchist
> Society?
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Patrick:
Having been to Rotary Club meetings, I can assure you that matters of great
of great complexity are routinely simplified beyond recognition for these
audiences.
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>
> The guy says I-A, Dravidian and Munda forma a language
> family --not that they're part of the same Nostratic
> phylum or whatnot. Then he contradicts himself by
> throwing in IE, as if his iA-Dravidian-Munda node is
> part of IE. I'm sure college sophomores all over
> America would like to have some of what he's smoking.
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Patrick:
And he also said that that nature of that "family" is areal.
He terms the IE-derived languages "North Prakrit", and specifically
identifies "North Prakrit" with conventional IE.
He does not mix the two!
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> Whatever relationship exists between IE and Dravidian
> goes back beyond Eurasiatic, which is yet to be
> reconstructed. That project needs to be built up one
> step at a time.
> 1. Find and reconstruct branches of Eurasiatic
> --essentially Indo-Tyrrhenian or Indo-Uralic vs. the
> rest.
> 2. Reconstruct Eurasiatic
> 3. Then compare Eurasiatic with AA, Dravidan, Elamite,
> Kartvelian and Sumerian
> 4. Then reconstruct Macro-Nostratic
> Only by following rigorous methodological steps is
> anyone going get Nostratic universally recognized.
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Patrick:
Yes. I can finally agree.
However, if Eurasiatic is reconstructed, why would we need
"Macro-Nostratic"?
The reasons for Nostratic's not being recognized have more to do with
prejudice than science, IMHO; this is because of the core hypothesis.
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