Re: beyond langauges

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: beyond langauges


>
> --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Francesco Brighenti" <frabrig@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:07 PM
> > Subject: [tied] Re: beyond langauges
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "kishore patnaik"
> > <kishorepatnaik09@...> wrote:
> > <...>
> > Those who lump together Indo-Aryan, Dravidian and
> > Munda languages
> > under the label "Indic languages" are usually Hindu
> > nationalists
> > and/or crackpot scholars who aim at disintegrating
> > the recognized
> > language families of South Asia in the name of a
> > misunderstood "Linguistic Area" concept -- see
> > Shubash Kak at
> >
> > http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/indic.pdf :
> >
> > "We argue that based on genetic classification, both
> > the Indo-Aryan
> > and Dravidian languages have had common parents and
> > these languages
> > share many typological categories."
> >
> > (Kalyanaraman also adds Munda languages to the mix.)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Francesco
> >
> > ***
> >
> > Patrick:
> >
> > I fail to see anything objectionable in Kak's
> > assertion.
> >
> > Bomhard has convincingly demonstrated that, if
> > Dravidian is not necessarily
> > Nostratic, it certainly can be related to Nostratic.
> >
> > Munda is a different matter, of course.
> > ****
> Either he's trying to dismiss IE by innuendo and
> replace it with Prakrit (IE + Dravidian + Munda) or
> he's completely lost. His rambling is incoherent.
> Sure, Nostratic posits a very distant relationship
> between IE and Dravidian c. 15,000 years ago but
> Kak-adoodle is off his chain.

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Patrick:

Strange. I though he was saying just what he wrote: "Indo-Aryan and
Dravidian languages have had common parents".

That relative might be Nostratic or something earlier.

You carefully avoided saying whether you believe PIE and Dravidian are
ultimately genetically related, no matter how distant.

Do you?

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