Re: Djilas

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>
> > GK: I don't know of any legend as such (other
> than
> > subsequent historical theories). There is, of
> course,
> > the Kyiv Foundation Legend, which speaks of three
> > brothers (and a sister) as original founders. I
> > actually wrote a little book on this (in Ukr. back
> in
> > 1991 "Tajemnytsja pervisnoji Rusy v Kyjevi" ("The
> > mystery of Kyiv's original Rus'"). My view is that
> the
> > legend is of Late Hunnic provenance (there is also
> an
> > Armenian version from the 7th c.) and reflects
> > political realities from ca. 455-520 CE, not in
> Kyiv
> > but on the lower Dnipro and around central Crimea.
> It
> > was "transplanted" to Kyiv along with this Hunnic
> > aristocracy (actually an Iranic clan) which became
> > slavicized as the "Polani" (the Armenian version
> knows
> > them as "Paluni"). The "sister Lybid" ("sister
> > swan")was added in the early 12th c., by reference
> to
> > the well known Hermanaric and Sunilda "Rosomoni"
> > story. Archaeologically, Kyiv was founded near the
> end
> > of the 7th and the beginning of the 8th c. It was
> > controlled by the Khazars for about one hundred
> years,
> > then taken over by Varangian warlords in
> co-operation
> > with local Slavs.****
>
> = Svan-hild ?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svanhild
>
>
> Torsten

****GK: Bishop Sylvester was familiar with some
version of the story in which "Svanhild" was
associated with three brothers, and with the Rosomoni.
He then connected this "lebed' lady" with the river
Lybid' which flowed west of the three hills allegedly
occupied by the three founding brothers. The earlier
version of the Legend did not mention a sister.
Neither did the Armenian version. But the "Varangian"
component of the Kyivan aristocracy would probably
have appreciated the addition. We don't know
Sylvester's background.****

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