From: tgpedersen
Message: 57987
Date: 2008-04-25
>The sense 'troop on the side'
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "jouppe" <jouppe@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Peter P" <roskis@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Then one would also like to explain Permian cognates...
> > >
> > > Zyrian 'goz' and Votyak 'kuz'.
> > >
>
> >
> > The etymology Gmc. *xanso: => finnic, saami & permic without
> > irregularity in the sound correspondances on the Finno-Permian
> > side comes very close to a chronological paradox and one should
> > probably therefore assume <= pre-Grimm paleo-gmc *kanso: or even
> > older *kansa:
> >
>
> I checked: "without irregularity" is an overstatement here, there is
> irregularity. So Permic should have borrowed the word from a more
> western dialect if it is related. The borrowing being old, it may
> still ba an attestation of anciennity of the Saami-Finnic word and
> may be it bears some independent testimony of its meaning, but we
> are on more shaky ground here.
>
> SSA also gives a Mari word here with a question mark: kuz@...,
> kuts^@k 'dowry'. At first glance I don't think it belongs here.
>