Re: Magyar uveg <-> Romanian uiag&

From: altamix
Message: 57939
Date: 2008-04-24

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <george_st@...> wrote:
>
> >The main problem is ü-
> >Where is the triggering factor for ü ?
> >
> >Arnaud
>
> /ü/ might be the latest development. I'd ask whether there were other,
> "intermediary" vowels, prior to /ü/. AFAIK, no one has said /ü/ re-
> presents the primeval variant (as the loanword entered the language).
>
> Perhaps in former times it was iveg /'i-vaeg/, I don't know.

hte matter seems to work very simple if the form in Hungarian was
*uwegV.(V= "a" or "e")
The Romanian development was :

1)-reducing the geminate ( uw= uu=u),
2) yotacising of "e" to "ie"
3) rendering of "ie" to "ia" due the "ã" in the next syllable

*uwega > *uega > *uiegã > uiagã

Apprently the "ü" in Hungarian is a later change here. The Romanian
phonetic change is perfect regular with no problems at all , if and I
repeat one more time, if the word in the time it has been borowed from
Hungarian was pronounced as *uwega.

best regards

Alexandru Moeller