Re: On the ordering of some PIE rules

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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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> From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
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> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] Re: On the ordering of some PIE
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> > On 2008-04-21 12:38, fournet.arnaud wrote:
> >
> >> Nothing in Italic, Celtic, Anatolian, Toharian, indo-iranian.
> >>
> >> When is a word of limited extension, according to you ?
> >
> > Attestation gaps are always to be expected, especially for a lexeme
> > which isn't part of the basic vocabulary (and however you define "basic"
> > meanings, 'hedgehog' is not one of them). There may have existed an
> > alternative word for the hedgehog, *g(^)He:r, with a more limited range
> > of attestation (Greek, Italic), but *h1eg^Hi- is pretty widespread,
> > especially for an insectivore. As there are no hedgehogs east of the
> > Ural mountains, I'm not surprised that the word doesn't occur in
> > Tocharian.
> >
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>
> As regards hedgehogs,
> Most ST languages have a word for porcupine and a different word for
> hedgehog,
> so they must know hedgehogs.
>
> http://www.herisson.qc.ca/Quest_ce_quun_herisson.htm
> Il est originaire d'Europe, d'Afrique et d'Asie.
>
> I'm currently preparing maps for kartvelian looking words in IE and
> Uralic.
>
> Arnaud

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Patrick:

For whatever interest in might have, I reconstruct 'porcupine' as pre-PIE
*the:- and 'hedgehog' as pre-PIE *kWe:-.

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