Re: Arrows

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Wordingham" <richard@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:13 PM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] [tied] Arrows (was: On the ordering

of some

> PIE rules)

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@>
> wrote:
> > By the way,
> >
> >> Sarmatians : saru-math "archer"
> >> Cf. Mongolian z^oruGa "arrow"
> >> Tungus-mandchu *sori "to throw arrows"
>
> >But is it a loan from Indo-Iranian? There seem to be several possible
> >PIE roots for, for example, Sanskrit _çara_ 'arrow'.
>
> =======
> http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/tamil/
>
> I haven't found this word **çara
> I found sara and many others.

The search engine doesn't transliterate for you - if you scroll down
you'll see that you have to enter the word in the Harvard-Kyoto system
- 'zara'.

> By the way, Sanscrit
> sara also means salt, lake,
> as in Permic zar "sea"

> So we have
> saru "arrow" = Mongol zoruGa "arrow"

Initial /z/ or /z^/?

> sara "salt, lake" = Permic zar "sea"
>
> I don't think this is a LW _from_ IA

The world is full of look-alikes.

Richard.