From: Rick McCallister
Message: 57602
Date: 2008-04-18
>I think you may have only caught the front end of the
> As I was planning to discuss Bangani in relation
> to (I believe) its
> closest relatives like Khowar, Nuristani,
> Burushaski, etc., I found this:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski"
> <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> >
> > Bangani is a Western Pahari language, closely
> related to a number of
> modern Indo-Aryan languages spoken in India, Nepal
> and Pakistan. No
> "centum language", dead or extant, has ever been
> discovered in those
> parts, but the substratal vocabulary apparently
> borrowed from a centum
> language and preserved in Bangani looks interesting.
> As H.H. Hock
> points out, both Tocharian and Greek can be ruled
> out as its sources,
> so the tantalising possibility remains that there
> were once upon a
> time other "lost tribes" speaking non-Satem
> varieties of IE.
> >
>
> Is there any evidence that this is a substratum
> within another
> language instead of native words in a non-Indic,
> non-Ir language that
> was fairly heavily influenced by Indic recently?
>
> Though the "centum" words have drawn the most
> attention, they are
> certainly not the only words showing unusual
> (non-Indic) features, and
> the oddities are so varied and scattered throughout
> both basic and
> other vocabulary it seems impossible they are
> borrowings.
>
>
> contrastive tone system like atsHaareetáa
>
>
> r.n. > r.
>
> khowàr purà; Ban por.- 'full'
>
>
> a/o > a > A > O
>
> *ghLakYtY > lOktO 'milk'
>
> *ghospti+s > gOsti 'guest, foreigner'
>
>
> O > E before pal. sonor.
>
> *xargYro+ > *ArYkrA+ > ErkO 'shining'
>
> *xWorYk(o)n.+ > L ricinus, Ban *OrYnk+ > E~rkO
> 'louse, flea'
>
>
> retention of e
>
> *gWexYtu+ > getu 'resin'
>
> *user. 'your'
> *t(w)e+ >> *te(se)r. > tesr- / ter- 'thy'
>
>
> r. C n > r. n C
>
> *xWorYk(o)n.+ > L ricinus, Ban *OrYnk+ > E~rkO
> 'louse, flea'
>
>
> r. KY > rY K
>
> *xargYro+ > *ArYkrA+ > ErkO 'shining'
>
>
> KY L > K Ly
>
> *gYLo:v+ > *gLyo:w+ > *dlya:m+ > dlya:n.
> 'sister-in-law'
>
>
> KY > r. / V_u
>
> *bhn,gYhu+ > *bar.u+ > bOr- 'much, many'
>
> *dekYm, > *dYorum > Bur torum '10'
>
>
> w > r. / V_u
>
> *gWovu+s > goru 'cow'
>
>
> w > p / #_
>
> *wodo:r. -n.+ > *mAdn.o: > pan.i 'water'
>
>
> w > m
>
> *gYheu+ 'pour'
> *gYhou+C > gOi- 'sacrifice'
> *gYhow+V > gOm- 'sacrifice'
>
> *gYLo:v+ > *gLyo:w+ > *dlya:m+ > dlya:n.
> 'sister-in-law'
>
>
> m > p / C-voice_
>
> *swe+ > *xme+ > *axme+ > *akHpe+ > apkh- '-self'
>
> *swer. > *xmer. > *axmer.o+ > *axmr.o+ *akHpn.o+ >
> apn.- / apr.- '() own'
>
>
> x > -syl. between syllables
>
> xs > kt
>
> *dhew-x-syo+ > *douxsyo+ > *do:ktya+ > dukti 'soul,
> last breath'
>
> *dhugYh-x-te:r. > *dukxte:r > *dukt+i: (fem.) >
> dukti 'daughter'