Re: Horse Sense (was: [tied] Re: Hachmann versus Kossack?)

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 57337
Date: 2008-04-15

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Subject: Re: Horse Sense (was: [tied] Re: Hachmann versus Kossack?)


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> From: "david_russell_watson" <liberty@...>
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestication_of_the_horse
> >
> > Before you go round and round, and laughable and laughable,
>
> I'm not the one who is laughable here, and "round and round"
> was an allusion to the circularity of your arguments.
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> I thought about horses training,
> they usually go round and round.
> Arnaud
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>
> > You can check basic references like wikipedia.
>
> Which proves nothing, since the Proto-Indo-Europeans wouldn't
> have needed to have domesticated horses before they could have
> a word for them. Did you truly fail to understand my example
> of the bear?
> David
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>
> People who have heard about an animal, usually have a word for it,
> but if they have never seen it, they usually have fairly crazy ideas what
> it
> really looks like,
> Maybe Greek Centauros is a good indication Greek speakers had never seen a
> horse, when they borrowed (h)ippos from Tocharian.
>
> Like the word olifant, applying to either elephants or camels.
>
> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaure
> L'origine de leur représentation est généralement expliquée ainsi : le
> cheval a été introduit en Grèce dès le XVIe siècle av. J.-C., mais n'était
> alors utilisé que comme bête d'attelage ; les centaures représenteraient,
> dans les légendes de l'Âge héroïque, les premiers cavaliers.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur
> The most common theory holds that the idea of centaurs came from the first
> reaction of a non-riding culture, as in the Minoan Aegean world, to nomads
> who were mounted on horses. The theory goes that such riders would appear
> as
> half-man, half-animal (Bernal Díaz del Castillo reported that the Aztecs
> had
> this misapprehension about Spanish cavalrymen).[4] Horse taming and
> horseback culture arose first in the southern steppe grasslands of Central
> Asia, perhaps approximately in modern Kazakhstan.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuckalavee
> He resembles a centaur whose legs are part fin; he has an enormous gaping
> mouth, and a single giant eye, which burns with a red flame.
>
> As regards bears,
> PIE speakers had a clear idea what a bear is,
> there is no half-bear, half-human creature.
>
> Arnaud
>
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Patrick:

What then is a berserkr?


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