Re: Hachmann versus Kossack?

--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "george knysh" <gknysh@...>
>
> >> >> So what ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Germanic people conquered other areas,
> >> >> so it's not wonder no continuity is expected.
> >> >
> >> > GK: The logic of this statement escapes
> >> me.
> >> >
> >> ================
> >>
> >> For example,
> >> How do you show the continuity between Rome's
> >> archeology in -100 BC and the
> >> Roman Empire AD 100 ?
> >>
> >> Arnaud
> >>
> >> ===========
> >
> > ****GK: In this case archaeology is almost wholly
> > subsidiary to history (though of course not
> entirely).
> > It is, for instance, possible to discover objects
> > indicating the area whence some of Rome's 1rst c.
> CE
> > population migrated from, if this is not mentioned
> in
> > extant literary sources. Archaeology is most
> useful
> > for prehistoric periods, or historic ones where
> the
> > relevant "history" has little if anything to say
> about
> > the relevant territory.
> >
> > With regards to the "Asiatic Germans" of the first
> > millennium BCE, what would be needed, according to
> > your scenario,is proof that there is a culture or
> > cultures west of Andronovo in the first millennium
> or
> > two BCE which can be demonstrably shown to be
> derived
> > in whole or on part from the classical Andronovo
> > culture. Such a culture does not exist. And thus
> the
> > populations which evolved into "Germanics" have no
> > discernible linkages to Andronovo. Your linguistic
> > musings, also criticized on linguistic grounds,
> have
> > no archaeological support at all. Point final.
> >>
> ===============
>
> What is the archeological support for Hungarians
> arriving from mid-Eurasia
> into Hungary ?

****GK: Read the literature. Why should I do your
homework for you?****

>
> I suppose we have -nothing- in archeology supporting
> the hypothesis that
> Hungarians came from somewhere else.
> As a matter of fact, we don't known exactly -where-
> they came from.

****GK: We have a pretty good idea about the various
places they came through before reaching Hungary. By
then they were a pretty complex lot, and became even
more so in the first century of their residence in the
old Avar heartland.****

>
> Your reasoning does not even apply to a -known- case
> of intrusion.

****GK: It applies quite well thank you.****

>
> Where is your point final ?

****GK: Your theory of "Asiatic Germans" has no
archaeological backing whatsoever.****

> This is politely commentable as -superficial-.

****GK: It's good enough. I'll be polite and not
comment on the quality of your thesis beyond what's
been stated.****



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