Re: Hachmann versus Kossack?

From: george knysh
Message: 57168
Date: 2008-04-11

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh
> <gknysh@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> >
> > > That makes the languages of the
> > > cultures you mention siblings (titled 'Para-')
> and
> > > parents of that
> > > Przeworsk language. And I think it was not so
> much
> > > Grimm-shifted, as
> > > Grimm-shifting, ie. it was in the process of
> > > shifting, probably in the
> > > sense that there was an upper crust who had
> > > Grimm-shifted, and that
> > > the Grimm-shifted words became shibboleths in
> > > relationship to the
> > > surrounding para-Germanic languages,
> >
> > GK: But what is missing here is an explanation
> as
> > to why this role should be assigned to "the
> Przeworsk
> > language" in particular.
> >
>
> Theories compete. The competition of this one has a
> problem with the
> fact that the Germanic language groups we know must
> have split up
> appr. 2000 years ago; Runic is pretty close to
> reconstructed PGmc.
> This one can explain that as a consequence of a
> language spreading
> from a small area, the competition has no
> explanation why this should
> suddenly happen in a static society (as they
> assune). I hope the
> detour we made recently, over the nature of
> diglossia, pidgins and
> creoles makes it understandable why it could be
> possible that Gothic,
> the language of the Wielbark culture, at least in
> its elite version
> (which is what we may assume they used for their
> Bible translation)
> was the language of Berig's people.

****GK: Sorry, Torsten,but this won't do. You're
retreating into generalities. The question "Why
Przeworsk?", rather than, say, Gubin Yastorf, has not
been answered. And the relationship between "Berig's
people" and "Przeworsk" even less.****


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