Re: Priimary Stem Formants: =*H, -*i/y, *-u/w

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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [tied] RE: Priimary Stem Formants: =*H, -*i/y, *-u/w


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
>
> >> ===========
> >> As is supported by Salish heyi "to be alive" and Arabic haya "to live"
> >> where h is a glottal voiced fricative.
> >> Arnaud
> >
> > ***
> >
> > This is the 'water' H2, Arabic <H>, dotted <h.>.
> >
> > ***
> I repeat : h glottal voiced fricative (last but two letter in Arabic
> script)
> haya "to live" = H2.8_y = Salish heyi
> hawa "air" = H2.8_w =
>
> Arnaud
> >> ==========
>
> >> As is supported by &_n_x "to breathe" in Egyptian.
> >> and s._b "to flow" in Arabic.
> > Arnaud
> >> ==========
> > ***
> > Those words have nothing to do with the question.
> > Patrick
> > ***
>
> I repeat
> Egypt &_n_x = H2_n_H1 "to breathe"
>
> Usually H1 is H (pharyngal unvoiced) but sometimes it's x (velar
> unvoiced).
> Conditions for that are unclear.
> I think there was only one phoneme at the beginning
> but allophonic conditioning is hard to retrieve.
>
> Arnaud
> ==============

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You can "repeat" until you are blue in the face, and it will not change
anything.

<'nx> has the initial <'>, which is equivalent to PIE *dh or *t(h).

It is the counterpart to Egyptian <D>, which represents the same set before
a non-back vowel.

*H2 shows up in the same places as Egyptian <j>.


Patrick

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