From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 56892
Date: 2008-04-06
----- Original Message -----
From: "david_russell_watson" <liberty@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 11:18 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Mitanni and Matsya
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "David Russell Watson"
<liberty@...> wrote:
>
<snip>
> generalizations are a fact of efficient thinking.
A generalization forced to fit a preconceived notion
or prejudice is not, and a generalization that isn't
properly recognized as a generalization but mistaken
as an unqualified fact is not.
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Arnaud generalized from statistical data which we presume was competently
and unprejudicially gathered so nothing of what you say above has any sane
bearing on what he wrote.
Data reflect statistical facts until new data supplants them.
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> You could have just said Hungarian.
***
You wrote "Jasz". That is a region of Hungary.
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Why would I say 'Hungarian' when I am not Hungarian?
I've never been a citizen of Hungary or even visited
the country, and neither has any ancestor of mine in
several generations been a citizen of Hungary, and I
am not a Magyar either.
Moreover Jasz have not only been in Hungary but also
in Romania for several centuries, and there are small
groups scattered about a few other countries as well.
In the next lesson maybe we'll take up the difference
between 'Jew' and 'Israeli', 'Han' and 'Chinese', or
'Arab' and 'Saudi'.
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Then why did you write "Jasz"?
Were you relatives forced out of Hungary?
Are you of the Romanian ethnos?
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> > Arnaud said nothing about including you in anything.
You may not have read him very carefully then, for he
directed me to a map in the same sentence in which he
supposed Americans better at junk food than geography.
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A map is _not_ a statistic - Vocabulary 101.
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> You defame yourself with your own mouth. You need no help
> from anyone else.
More difficulty maintaining a line of thought, I see,
for I've said nothing with my "own mouth" to let him
think I eat junk or don't know about the mountains in
Central Asia.
Oh, or were you just trying to insult me?
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David, no one cares what you do or do not do. Nor will they ever.
Arnaud was talking about large numbers of Americans without implying (Logic
101) that you were included.
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> I am positive the French do not care a sou for what Americans
> think.
And I care even less myself about what you think about
the French.
Although I suspect that it's actually a Canadian we're
talking about here.
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Your suspicions are always unfounded.
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> > Bullies typically call it "meddling" when someone drags
> > them off of their victim, and when exactly did you prove
> > that I'm untalented?
>
> I need not prove it when you are doing such an excellent
> job of it yourself.
Of course you've proved nothing, as usual.
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Even more so with this miserable missal.
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> You would not know immorality if it bit you in the bottom.
By most of the normal indices of morality I've shown
myself to be far more moral than you.
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Explain that one for us in detail, why do you not?
Jenseits von Gut und Böse? Flattery from you, David???????
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> I prefer my teachers to be emotionally stable.
I prefer the same of my students, but we all have to
work with what we're given.
David
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No, you have to. I do not. Lever dod as Slav.
Patrick
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