Re: b/m alternation in Thacian, Illyria and Abanian

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 56836
Date: 2008-04-06

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From: "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
To: "tgpedersen" <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: b/m alternation in Thacian, Illyria and Abanian


> At 6:33:50 AM on Tuesday, April 1, 2008, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> >>>> And in Gmc. [ON <þorskr> 'codfish'] has a perfectly
> >>>> good etymology, from *þurs- (PIE *ters- 'to dry').
>
> >>> Would that be with a k-suffix?
>
> >> Yes. Krahe & Meid III, §194.1 note that deadjectival
> >> derivation of verbs via a Gmc. k-suffix is especially
> >> frequent in ON, offering the pairs <dýrka> ~ <dýrr>,
> >> <blíðka> ~ <blíðr>, <minnka> ~ <minnr>, <seinka> ~ <seinn>,
> >> <víðka> ~ <víð>, <þurka> ~ <þurr>, and <samka> ~ <samr>.
>
> > But those are verbs, Brian.
>
> Yes, I got sidetracked into thinking about the relationship
> between <þurr> and <þurka> and forgot the original issue.
> What I wrote is actually relevant, however, as it explains
> the lack of /s/ in the verb: it's derived from the
> adjective. <Þurr> itself should be from something like
> *þurzu-; the <rr> is part of the root, even though the
> second <r> is dropped before consonantal inflectional
> endings.
>
> <Þorskr> would appear to be regularly derived from *þurskaz.
> The k-suffix in animal names is usually found in weak
> masculines (as <-ki>), but there is <eyrnablaðkr> 'earlobe'
> (<blað> 'a leaf').
>
> Brian

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These are two different -*k's:

1) -*ko, diminutive; and

2) -*k^(h)o, verbalizing adjectives

The adjectives in -*s + -*k^(h) are the components of -*sk^-.


Patrick

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