Re: Mitanni and Matsya

----- Original Message -----
From: "david_russell_watson" <liberty@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Mitanni and Matsya


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@>
wrote:
> >
> > I suppose Americans are better at junk food than geography
>
> <David, the Goliath-slayer, responds:>

Goliath?! You flatter yourself, Patrick, or else Arnaud.
"Rat catcher" better describes my role here.

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Pied Piper of Hamelin? For once we can agree.

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> Arnaud, with David it is all about David. Generalizations,
> acceptable to most of the educated world, are forbidden
> with him.

What "educated" world is that, in which national, ethnic,
or racial generalization of the sort you and Arnaud favor
is acceptable?

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Unfortunately for you, generalizations are a fact of efficient thinking.

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> People who are _not_ ashamed of their ethnic backgrounds

Implying that I am ashamed of my ethnic background, of
course.

I am Jasz, Patrick, and in no way ashamed of the fact,
though, as I've said, I can't imagine what concern the
like is to you or Arnaud, or what it has to do with my
grasp of geography.

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You could have just said Hungarian.

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> have no trouble discussing them in America. And enquiring
> about those of others.

Typical red-herring nonsense of yours. Arnaud has made
claims about an entire group that are true of only some
in that group. I am included in the group 'Americans',
with Arnaud being quite clear he intended to include me
personally, whereas none of his claims are true of me.

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Arnaud said nothing about including you in anything.

He made generalizations about Americans that reflect statistical findings.

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That amounts to defamation of myself pure and simple, as
well as defamation of any other American of whom these
claims are not true.


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You defame yourself with your own mouth. You need no help from anyone else.

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I've heard the French defamed by Americans _many_ times,
though have never left it unchallenged when it happened
in my own presence.

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I am positive the French do not care a sou for what Americans think.

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> Arnaud, you are absolutely correctly in asserting that
> statistically Americans eat an enormous amount of junk-
> food; and that our educational system is failing because
> of untalented meddlers like David.

Bullies typically call it "meddling" when someone drags
them off of their victim, and when exactly did you prove
that I'm untalented?

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I need not prove it when you are doing such an excellent job of it yourself.

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> It is a reasonable presumption that any random American
> whom one meets will belong in the statistical majority
> in any category. One will be right more than he is wrong.

And in those cases that one _is_ wrong and expresses her
presumption, she speaks libelously, not to mention acts
in an immoral and dishonorable manner.

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You would not know immorality if it bit you in the bottom.

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Now, what shall your next lesson be?

David

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I prefer my teachers to be emotionally stable.


Patrick

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