Re: Mitanni and Matsya

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From: "Miguel Carrasquer Vidal" <miguelc@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Mitanni and Matsya


> On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:47:25 +0200, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> >On 2008-04-05 00:31, david_russell_watson wrote:
> >
> >> ... with radical accent árjuna- 'white' (Gk. árguros 'silver' from
> >> r-stem; cf. also Skt. rjrá- from uncompounded r-stem), pís^una-
> >> 'slanderous, treacherous' (cf. Gk. pikrós 'bitter, inimical', from
> >> simple r-stem)...
> >
> >
> >Just a thought. Adjectival *-ró- is in close-to-complementary
> >distribution with *-ú-, and some adjectives have both variants. Gk.
> >árguros, Skt. árjuna- seem to be secondary -ro-/-no- extensions of older
> >*h2r.g^-ú- (var. of *h2r.g^-(r)ó-), with an accented vr.ddhi vowel
> >(whatever the details of the process that produced such an outcome). I
> >wonder if, after all, we couldn't be dealing with a parallel derivative
> >of *wrh1-ú- 'wide' --> *wérh1-u-no-: 'the wide (sky)' or the like.
>

<Miguel continued:>

> Excellent suggestion.
>
> If we look at the Indo-Iranian forms of this root in
> Pokorny:
>
> Ai. urú-, av. vouru- (aus *varu-, idg. *w(e)ru-), jav. auch
> uru- `weit', westoss. urux, Kompositionsform av. uru- (aus
> *wru-, wie ai. gru- neben gurú-, oben S. 476); Komparativ
> vári:yas-, Superlativ váris.t.ha-, dazu ai. uru:cí: f. `die
> Erde', Femin. zu uru-vyáñc : uru:c- `weitreichend', vgl. den
> av. Bergnamen Vourus^a-, vielleicht = ai. *uru:cya-; ai.
> urvat.a- m. `Jahr', *uruat.a- `weit umherschweifend'; PN
> Urvás´i: f. aus *uru-va:s´i:- `starkes Verlangen'; dazu
> ulú:khala- `Mörser' aus *urú:-khara- `mit breitem Boden';
>
> , that might also explain the Mitanni Hurrian form
> ur(u)vana-.

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Miguel, why do you think that a 'laryngeal' must be reconstructed in
*werH1-ú-?


Patrick

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