From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 56500
Date: 2008-04-03
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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [tied] RE: Laryngo delendum est
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> So, you are saying that QuSheng = Tone -4; and according to Baxter that
> comes from final -*s.
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> This is true in Mandarin
> QS > tone 4
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> All sinologists agree on that
> It's not Baxter's own invention.
> Haudricourt's idea dates back to the 1950ies.
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> Arnaud
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> In the case of xiu-4, 'embroider', does Baxter actually write "*sjuwH" is
> the underlying form?
> Or does he write <sjuws>?
> Or yet: <sjuwHs>?
> Patrick
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> He writes for
> AD 500 *sjuwH
> and for
> BC 1000 *sjiw(k)s
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> According to ShiJing Rhyme 116.2
> This word rhymes with words
> ending in -k- and a word in QuSheng hawH
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> That's the reason why Baxter hesitates
> with ou without -k-
> I think the best solution is *syew-H1-
> with H1 being a pharyngeal unvoiced.
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> Arnaud
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And what does Baxter consider his *H to be phonologically?
Patrick
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