Re: 'Vocalic Theory'

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 56244
Date: 2008-03-30

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From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] RE: 'Vocalic Theory'


> On 2008-03-29 20:48, etherman23 wrote:
>
> > In case 2 what is the outcome? If we have, for example, *H2eH3 is the
> > outcome o: or a:? Does the initial laryngeal color first or does the
> > final color first? Or is there some other rule?
>
> We would need some real examples to answer this question. Words like
> *gWorh3-áh2 (> Gk. borá:) can't be used as evidence, since they follow a
> productive pattern of derivation and may display the generalized
> vocalism of *-ah2- stems. LIV has the root */h2eh3-/ 'believe', possibly
> reflected in Lat. o:men, which would guarantee *e in the root
> (*/h2eh3-m(e)n-/ --> *h2oh3-mn.). Unfortunately, the root (already
> quoted by Miguel last week) is poorly attested (a question-mark in LIV).
>
> Piotr

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I cannot believe that any PIE root could be more poorly attested than
*/H2eH3/.

So, Pokorny would have written root: *o:-?

The root, in my opinion, is pre-PIE *?o?(a), 'said', not 'believe'. LIV
really has a live one, here.

Sad.

Patrick

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