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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
> Some interesting archaeological data (esp. for Torsten
> as he gathers material for the "origin of Germanic"
> question. Some of this he will like a lot ,some less.)
>
> http://www.germany-encyclopedia.com/Poland_in_Antiquity
I must like some of it, since I referred to it before in
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/54996
I have a couple questions_
1) With all the detail in corroborating the identity of Wielbark
relative to other Polish-land cultures, there is not a word of
discussion of similarity or not of Wielbark to their 'Scandinavian
protoplasts', as the Slavic mother tongue (note the weird adjectival
constructions) writer quaintly puts it (apparently I live in a Black
Lagoon).
2) It is tempting to equate non-IE(?) Chatti with the Cotini/Púchov
mixed culture. Are there reasons one shouldn't?
3) It's further tempting to connect Vandili/Vendsyssel/Veneti in Gaul:
the Limfjord south of Vendsyssel was the preferred sailing route to
the Baltic, not until Hansa Ummelandsfarer with large cogs did
shipping take the dangerous route north of Skagen.
4) 'The evolution of the power structure within the Germanic societies
in Poland and elsewhere can be traced to some degree by examining the
"princely" graves - burials of chiefs, and even hereditary princes, as
the consolidation of power progressed. Those appear from the beginning
of the Common Era and are located away from ordinary cemeteries,
singly or in small groups. The bodies were inhumed in wooden coffins
and covered with kurgans, or interred in wooden or stone chambers.
Luxurious Roman-made gifts and fancy barbarian emulations ... , but
not weapons, were placed in the graves. 1st and 2nd century burials of
this type, occurring all the way from Jutland to Lesser Poland, are
referred to as princely graves Lubieszewo type, after Lubieszewo,
Gryfice County in western Pomerania, where six such burials were found.'
Here's the question that *you* don't like: where does this sudden
homogeneous upper class come from? Why does it use inhumation, not
cremation, as was the custom before? Is it similar to any other
culture in the neighborhood?
5) 'Related to the Przeworsk culture was the Wietrzno-Solina type, a
cultural unit with Celtic and then Dacian elements, situated within
the more eastern part of the Beskids range (San River basin) during
the 100-250 CE period[24][25].'
Saxo's Ruthenians?
6) 'The pottery as well as iron mining and processing industries kept
developing in Poland throughout the Roman periods, until terminated in
5th century or so by the Great Migration. Clay pots were still often
formed manually and these were more crude, while the better ones were
made with the potter's wheel. Some have inscriptions engraved, but
their meaning (if any) is not known.'
Comment?
Torsten