Re: Finnish KASKI

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 56021
Date: 2008-03-27

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jouppe

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Linguistics is not about "I don't think". Its about science.
Parallells and analogies:
In Finnish the stem has some of the following meanings: myö-tä
is 'with'. myö-tä-tuuli is 'wind from behind' and myö-hemmin
is 'later'.
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ok
It's the usual theorem "Finnish ueber alles"
"It's true in Finnish, hence it's true for all PU".

I disagree...
Arnaud
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The /n,/ (velar nasal) would not have become k but disappeared as in
Finnish. This is regular. It is retained in Saami though. In
science "I disagree" is simply not enough, you have to run through
all the data.

I thought you would recognize Moksha suffixes, especially since I
used the hyphen.

Jouppe
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I think there must be more than one word
at the origin of the data in UEW276
They created two forms
miN.ä and müN.ä
and they discarded some PU words
that don't fit in the mould of this fallacy.

There may be three words :
- back (body part)
- with
- going to somewhere

Arnaud
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> *üli `over, above' (Mk vel'f 'beyond; through, by, over above'
> Mk vel'd'ä 'through, by')
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> This is a good joke.
> ü becoming ve !!

This particular word is well researched and has a complete
distribution with regular vowel correspondance From Finnish to Vogul.
+ v- before rounded vowel is not that strange. Finnic knows the
phenomenon.

Do your homework.

Jouppe
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You are again on the "Finnish ueber alles" dark side.

In the sunny side, my side,
UEW has 573 wilä with w-
which is obviously better that your proto-Finnishoid üli.
It's not entirely satisfactory but it's better.

I'm grateful we're having this discussion
so that the fallacies and absurdities of
current Uralistics can be exposed
for the benefit of all people.

Arnaud

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