Re: dhuga:ter ('LARYNGEALS')

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 55906
Date: 2008-03-25

In my opinion, the earliest PIE word for 'bone' was *(n)ka(:)s-,
corresponding to Egyptian <qs> (no 'laryngeal' - naturally long vowel).

The form *kost(h)- is a result of the addition of *-dh, a formant of bodily
parts, which has become *t(h) by contact eith the final *-s.

This is a case where semantic differentiation was _not_ affected by
shortening of the originally long vowel (-> *kast(h)-); and for the same
reason as above, became the Ablautvokal, *A: *kAst(h)-.

Accordingly, it could under circumstances appear as *kést(h)- or
*kòst(h)'V-. and even *kØst(h)'V-, which was simplified to *ost(h)-.

An extreme minority opinion but I though one or two readers might be
interested.


Patrick




----- Original Message -----
From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: dhuga:ter ('LARYNGEALS')


> On 2008-03-25 12:33, fournet.arnaud wrote:
>
> > asgwrn is bone not eye.
>
> You misunderstood what Miguel was saying. <asgwrn> is part of the
> evidence for *a in 'bone' (so are, e.g., OIr. asna 'rib' < *h2ast-n-io-,
> Gk. astrágalos 'knuckle'). He meant that Arm. akn was equally good
> evidence for *a in the 'eye' word. I don't quite agree with that, since
> a prothetic vowel from vocalised *h3 is possible in the Arm. word (if
> from *h3(o)kW-mn- [cf. Gk. ómma], with a generalised weak stem).
>
> > It seems competent people like Pokorny and Meillet
> > are ok with Armenian being from H1okw.
>
> Pokorny and Meillet reconstructed it as *h1okW-??
>
> Piotr
>
>