From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 55898
Date: 2008-03-25
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From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
>> You know
>> "sheep" used to be *H3owi
>> "bone" used to be *H3ost-
>>
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>I'm interested to know about *H2ost in Celtic.
>
>Now, the diverse reasons why
>I'm not satisfied with *H3_kw for "eye"
>
>1. opi:peuô is better with H1_kw
>it does not need to be irregular in that case
>It's the one reason within PIE borders I know.
As good as <asgwrn> and other such Celtic words would seem
to be Armenian <akn>, <ac^`k`> "eye" (but if so, that would
rather point to *h2).
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M. Carrasquer Vidal
You look tired these last days.
Apart from your blunder ero:tao "interrogate"
suggesting the root of row, rudder should be
H1_r_H3 instead of H1_r_H1 as in eretês.
asgwrn is bone not eye.
It seems competent people like Pokorny and Meillet
are ok with Armenian being from H1okw.
Arnaud
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Besides Hitt. sak(u)wa- "eye" (< PA *sogWo- < PIE *sókWo-)
[with irregular t- in the Luwian branch], there's also Hitt.
suwais "bird", possibly connected to <avis> etc.
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This is very intesting.
H1okw "eye"
S-H1okw in Hittite
T-H1_kw in Luwian
All this conforts the idea H_kw is a verb.
Hittite suwais "bird" is more complex
PIE H2_w- is an easy cognate of
Semitic ?_b "bird"
I know no case of s? in Hittite
so I can't say anything on
suwais < *s-?_w ??
It's easier to start with *z_w-
Connection with s?_p- "bird"
is not easy either.
What happens when Ai vih / ve:h
is the second member of a compound
ending with a vowel :
is there a yod intruding there ?
Arnaud
PS
Do you think Ai ve:h is a good example
of your fundamental *e: ?
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[...]
>4. in view of some languages having
>mok "face" (Burushashki, Basque, etc)
Basque moko is an expressive word of no great antiquity.
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Sezz hoo ?
You got an obsession with expressivity.
Arnaud
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