From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 55831
Date: 2008-03-23
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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:26 PM
Subject: Fw: Re: [tied] Re: dhuga:ter ('LARYNGEALS')
> > ===========
> > Laryngeals :
> >
> > - color vowels,
> > - lengthen vowels,
> > - aspirate consonants,
> > - voice consonants,
> > - induce tone patterns,
> >
> > What else ?
> >
> > Arnaud
> >
> > ============
>
> Apart the voicing in
> pipH3-
>
> Patrick,
> How does your theory
> account for the devoicing in :
>
> kes < *ghH1es- "grey"
> k°snos "hare"
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There is no devoicing. There is no *ghHes-, 'grey'.
There is no *k^es-, 'grey'.
*k^as-, 'ash-gray', is a rare compound of *k^A + *Há(:)s-, 'burn'.
Uncompounded, *k^A can be seen with the derivative suffix in *k^éy-.
With *rA, color formant, in *k^ér-
Reduplicated in Egyptian <kk>, 'dark'.
Another rare compound is *k^A + *wa(:)-, 'wolf', which leads to k^ú-n-,
'dog'.
This can even be seen in Sumerian gi-6-gi-6, 'black'.
PL KHE is very well- represented:
http://geocities.com/proto-language/PL-Monosyllables_short.htm#KHE
> Cf.
> Germanic gre:wa < *ghreH1-wo-
>
> Cf. French LW gris "gray"
> German Greis "very old man"
> Cf. Arabic jiHrit? "very old woman"
>
> H1 is there.
> Root *gh(r)_H1-
>
> Arnaud
>
> ===============
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PIE *g^her-, 'shimmer', is a different root altogether.
Patrick
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