Re: hoopoe

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:40:42 +0100, "fournet.arnaud"
<fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:

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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
>To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:04 PM
>Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] hoopoe
>
>
>On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:43:06 +0100, "fournet.arnaud"
><fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
>
>>To shine (e.g a star) *tsab-
>>PIE slavic z_w-iezda
>>Slavic is from *sw_s?-t-
>
>Slavic is from PBS *g(^)waigzd-(ij)ah2 (Lith. z^vaigzde:~,
>OCS 3vêzda, Pol gwiazda, from the PIE root *g^hwoigW- "to
>shine" (Grk. phoibos).
>Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
>
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>It really takes a lot of faith
>in letter games to postulate
>PBS *g(^)waigzd-(ij)ah2 (sic !!)
>
>Which other words with
>that kind of cluster -gzd- exist ?

Hundreds and hundreds in Lithuanian (just search for *gzd
and *gz^d in LKZ).

>The inability to reconstruct a clean etymon
>*g or *g^
>in so evidently close languages
>is highly suspect.
>
>The Polish form seems to
>the one to remove !?
>Help, Piotr ?

The Polish form is completely regular. The Slavic etymon has
*g, which is palatalized to dz (3) > z in East and South
Slavic before palatalized /v'/, but not in West Slavic (Pol.
gwiazda, Cz. hvêzda).

The Baltic etymon has *g^, which is the source of Lith /z^/.

Vacillation *k^ ~ *k etc. before another consonant is quite
common in Balto-Slavic.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
miguelc@...