Re: dhuga:ter ('LARYNGEALS')

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From: "Miguel Carrasquer Vidal" <miguelc@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: dhuga:ter ('LARYNGEALS')


> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 07:52:47 -0500, "Patrick Ryan"
> <proto-language@...> wrote:
>
> >If a system had only one coloring 'laryngeal', it might well 'color'
> >vowels
> >to /u/.
>
> I would not expect a laryngeal to cause a raising effect.

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And I expect you are right.

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> >What the 'color' of any given 'laryngeal' should be is a function of the
> >frequency of the 'laryngeal' in the system not its coloring or
> >non-coloring
> >capabilities.
> >
> >The strongest argument I know against 'coloring' 'laryngeals' is that
> >intact
> >Semitic languages like Arabic have a full complement of 'gutturals'
> >(?/h/¿/H) and while these may produce allophones of the vocalic phonemes,
> >the allophones never rise to phonemic status as proposed for PIE.
>
> Precisely. Because they still have a full complement of
> 'gutturals', the allophones cannot rise to phonemic status
> now can they?

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I am not sure if that is an absolute rule but it certainly makes sense for
the small picture.

This may be the day I win _no_ arguments.


Patrick

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