From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 55793
Date: 2008-03-23
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From: Patrick Ryan
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> No,
> *ts became Eg. s
> while *s became Eg. sh
>
> ts? became Eg. dj
>
> Arnaud
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How about, say, three examples of Nostratic *ts -> Egyptian <s>?
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I will use Chinese to exhibit
a really affricate.
Number seven : *sap-
PIE *sep-(t-m.)
Egyptian *s_f_(x_w)
Chinese qi1 < *tsat < *tsapt
probably a LW from early PIE.
Anaphoric *tsa?u
PIE *sH3 < *tsa?u
Egyptian *s_w
Chinese *ci3 < tsa?u
Cognate this time.
To shine (e.g a star) *tsab-
PIE slavic z_w-iezda
Egyptian s_b_3
In view of -3 = s?
Slavic is from *sw_s?-t-
Chinese zhao4 < tsyaw-s-
It's even possible to
admit that Chinese proves
-s?- is part of the root : *tsabs?-
Arnaud
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"old man"?
My Chinese side respects old age.
How old are you ?
A.
Would you like to be addressed as 'tadpole'?
I'm an achieved frog.
Not the beginning of a frog.
A.
In view of Cockney /?/ for /t/, it should not be so difficult to understand.
I accept t > ?
The reverse has to be substantiated.
A.
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Egyptian <q> corresponds to PIE *(n)k^/*(n)g^ AND *(n)k/*(n)g
Egyptian <q> corresponds to PIE *(n)k/*(n)g
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Please write pre-nasalized velar next time.
Arnaud
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