From: Rick McCallister
Message: 55751
Date: 2008-03-23
> They are not two values.____________________________________________________________________________________
>
> The most frequent spelling is db with a bar under
> the d.
>
> A convention called Manuel de codage recommends Db.
>
> Some scholars, I think mainly Germans, use dj-b.
>
> All mean the same thing.
>
> Since Egyptian <D> derives from both Nostratic *t?s
> and *ts, it is an
> affricate.
>
> In my opinion, it passed into Egyptian as voiceless
> but palatalized: /tsh/.
>
> Its descendent in Coptic, however, is usually
> regarded as being /dzh/.
>
> This is not onomatopeic. It means 'tuft'.
>
> Bear in mind, that I believe the proper reading is
> Dwb not Db.
>
> Budge has many uses but unless you are an
> Egptologist, you will never figure
> out how to use him properly.
>
> Faulkner is not too expensive, and there may be a
> newer French dictionary of
> which I am not aware that would be suitable.
>
> Beinlich seems to include everything but the kitchen
> sink. Use him. But look
> at his sources, which he kindly lists.
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [tied] hoopoe
>
>
> > M. Ryan
> >
> > Congratulations !
> > This is the ultimate proof.
> >
> > But this sign has two values :
> > D_b or dj_b
> >
> > I prefer dj_b
> > and this dj is better read ts?
> > ts? _b < *ts_?_p
> >
> > Great !
> >
> > I have ququp for hoopoe
> > in Budge.
> >
> > Arnaud
> >
> > ===============
> >
> >
> >
>