Re: Taurisci (Was:Re: Kossack's Conclusions)

From: george knysh
Message: 55665
Date: 2008-03-22

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>
> > > Since we are in that end of the history of the
> Hermunduri,
> > > there might be a connection to the Taurisci?
> >
> >
> > GK: And what would that be?
>
> Easy now! I was wondering why Jordanes think
> Burebista attacks the
> Germans,
>
http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/Goths/Goths1.htm
> whereas Strabo thinks he attacked the Taurisci.
>
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Strabo/7E*.html
> I know of course that they were outside the Germanic
> world then.
> I see that the Taurisci is supposed to have vanished
> to the east
> http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurisci
> but no source is given.
> What are the archaeological alternatives for a past
> for the Przeworsk
> who arrive in Thuringia and the Wetterau in the 1st
> cent. BCE?

****GK: I believe that earlier you cited Hachmann's
correlation of the dilution/disappearance (temporary)
of Przeworsk in its western areas (near the Oder) at
the same time as Przeworsk appears in the Wetterau and
in Thuringia. Which implies that the migrants were not
from central/eastern Przeworsk near the later Torun
(not exactly at the same location which was
archaeologically empty at the time but close).
In any case Piotr has reminded us (by pointing to
message 50841) that we do know the Polish name of the
settlement which preceded Thorn of the Knights: it was
called Tarnowo. Here's the relevant quote from that
post:

"the
Polish village of Tarnowo/Tarnów is mentioned already
in 1222, 1230 at
the same location, and it is perhaps the most likely
source of the name.
The Old Polish word <tarn> (now <ciern'> from
paradigmatic levelling)
means 'thorn' (prototypically with reference to
blackthorn bushes) and
is etymologically the same thing as its Germanic
equivalent; it comes
from *tIrnU < *tr.no-."

Amen.****




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