From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 55620
Date: 2008-03-21
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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [tied] Re: dhuga:ter
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> From: Piotr Gasiorowski
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> On 2008-03-21 14:54, fournet.arnaud wrote:
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> > What Martinet has written and thought is relevant!
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> > When do people plan to start reading him ?
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> I've read almost everything Martinet ever wrote (including _Economie des
> changements phonétiques_, which is required reading for all would-be
> historical linguists, also in Poland. I read if first in my student
> days, and it had a lot of influence on me at the time. Since then,
> however, I've become acquainted with lots of other authors (including
> critics of Martinet), done a lot of thinking on my own, and Martinet's
> influence has become somewhat diluted as a result. I'm perfectly aware
> of his "laryngeals with appendices" proposals as well as other bold
> ideas: prenasalised stops in PIE, velar affricates (*k^S etc.). I don't
> believe in most of that stuff any longer (though I once bought it
> wholesale). Martinet _was_ a brilliant linguist, no doubt about that,
> but even geniuses can't be right all the time. Laryngeal hardening has
> stood the test of time (though probably not always as originally
> proposed).
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> It's obvious to me that Miguel has read and re-read Martinet with due
> attention. If anyone's making a fool of himself in this thread, it isn't
> him.
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> Piotr
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> Got it,
> Herr Doktor Piotr.
> I suppose
> "L'ordre règne à Varsovie"
> as they used to say in good old times.
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> Among the many bold proposals
> Martinet made,
> you forgot to mention
> his system of laryngeals
> I suppose it's kindof Freudian.
> you forgot the best thing.
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> I suggest you read that again.
> And your protégé can do that do.
> You will both profit by this reading.
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> Arnaud
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