Re: Torsten's theory reviewed

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> > The target of your heavy sarcasm, Caesar, can't hear you. Check
> > the text for yourself:
> > http://classics.mit.edu/Caesar/gallic.1.1.html
>
> ****GK: Caesar is hardly in cause here. The only
> problem is the inventor of "Torsten logic". I have no
> further use for him I'm afraid.****

Oh no! My life has lost all meaning.

> > > Anyway,the main point,viz., the untenability of your contention
> > > about Przeworsk as creating and spreading Germanic speech
> > > and literature should be pretty clear by now.
> >
> > Oh. When did that happen?
>
> ****GK: As soon as it became evident you did not know
> how Przeworsk was constituted or its established
> history.****

As I said, my Russian and Polish stink. That's why I have to depend on
people like you to set me straight on those matters.

> > > I'm off to do better things.
> >
> > And I was just about to ask you about which one of the layers of
> > heavy militarizaton of Przeworsk you think would fit
> > Ariovist's expedition?
> > My Polish and Russian is worse than your German, so, I promise to
> > be nice?
>
> ****GK: I really have no further time to waste on
> someone who consistently sidesteps points he is unable
> to answer coherently (e.g. your silly notion of the
> "Suebian confederation" in Tacitus,

What did I sidestep there?

> or your contention
> that Swedish archaeologists have got it wrong because
> they can't discern an "invasion" of their territory by
> the creators of Germanic a la Torsten,

Oh, so that was where you were about to Cannae my forces? Would you
like to elaborate or are you too insulted?

> or how the perennial neighbours of the Przeworkers, the Wielbark
> Goths, managed to avoid "Germanization"

Well, I called them para-Germanic.

> until the arrival of the Amals, whose own recent Germanic
> pedigree couldn't quite be explained a la Torsten,

That means you reject my idea that they brought a Germanic written
language with them?

> or why French and German archaeologists need to do their
> homework because their findings don't support Torsten
> etc etc etc.)

No, because their conclusions resulted in a contradiction.

> and substitutes peripheral issues settled a la Torsten (such as the
> ethnicity of the Nametes,

You mean Nemetes, I assume. You made an issue out of the ethnicity of
the Nemetes, I didn't. Torsten has settled it like a linguist would;
anyone on cybalist who disagrees should please comment here.

> or what Caesar meant Ariovistus to have implied in their exchanges).

I didn't get that?

> The fact is, that as long as established evidence
> flies in the face of Heimskringla, Yngliga Saga,
> chapters 5-7, Torsten will always find "problems" with
> it, and will continue to use "Torsten logic" to combat
> it.

So, if I reach a conclusion that seems to support Heimskringla etc, it
is because I've substituted 'Torsten logic' for real logic, which
would have led to the opposite result?

> The Odin fantasy remains as strong as ever, even
> if the name rarely surfaces (for administrative
> causes).

As far as I am concerned, Heimskringla etc are sources like any other,
and I'd like to find a solution which accommodates all the sources,
even though I'm hampered by administrative decisions that they should
be considered mendacious.

> I cum Deo tuo,et vale. ****

Enjoy yourself.


Torsten