On 2008-03-13 14:49, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
> The predicted verbal adjectives are from some verbs isn't it?
Yes, but the verbs in question aren't necessarily always attested. We
have nu:dus < *no(g)wedos (< Olsen's *nogWe-h1-to-), but no
corresponding verb. It's like Eng. unkempt (from OE cemban 'to comb',
which has gone extinct).
> The Latin stative verb that I know here is rube:re < *h1rudH-eh1-
And in ModE we only have the verb <comb>, and no +kemb.
> So:
> I) if you try to tell me: that Latin ru:bidus (with long u:) can be
> derived from the verb rube:re < *h1rudH-eh1- adding a -to => this is
> for sure false.
This is not what I'm telling you.
> II) If not, you need to show me another Latin verb from where to
> derive ru:bidus ....and not to show me some PIE o-grades in general
> as possible formations.
I can show you the adjective from which the hypothetical verb was
derived and the verbal adjective derived from that verb. I can't show
you the "missing link", but at least I can argue in favour of assuming
that it once existed. If <ru:bidus> is not associated with *ru:beo:
(more or less synonymous with <rubeo:>), how else can you explain it?
What o-grades would you like to see? Stative verbs in *-eh1- are derived
from adjectives (including o-grade ones), and I don't think you want to
question the derivation of <ru:fus> from *roudHo-, do you? We have
Slavic rudU, Lith rau~das, Germanic *rauða-, etc. The stative
*h1rudH-éH1- is of course more widespread in IE and probably older (OHG
rote:n, OCS rUde^ti, OIr. ruidid), but *roudHe-h1- is not impossible:
Slavic has reflexes of both *rUde^ti and *rude^ti, and OE has <re:adian>
'be/become red'), if you need actually attested verbs with the o-grade.
Piotr